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$848 Billion Health Care Bill Moves to Senate Floor
Posted Sunday, November 22, 2009 ; 02:49 AM | View Comments | Post Comment
Updated Monday, November 23, 2009; 10:51 AM


The health care reform bill will move forward to the Senate floor for debate following Thanksgiving break.

Story by Matt Crist


WASHINGTON -- Despite strong divides that remain along party lines, Saturday night’s partisan vote of 60-39 will send the health care reform bill to the Senate floor for further debate.

The news comes shortly after a strong endorsement by U.S. Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., chairman of the Senate Finance Subcommittee on Health Care, who praised the Congress for their efforts in working together to help push the bill along.

“We have not come this far by accident or chance; together, the Democratic Congress has pushed for strong health care reforms to improve the lives of all Americans —and I believe success is on the horizon,” he said in a prepared statement.

The Senate vote was a crucial step forward for Democrats hoping to buy more time and support for a bill that has plenty of critics.

Skeptics of the bill are wondering what will be left of the 2,074 page, $848 billion health care bill once, and if, it is enacted into law.

Democrats said they remain hopeful that members of the Senate can work together to produce meaningful legislation that extends health care coverage to millions of Americans that fall short, or have zero coverage, under the current system.

"The legislation deserves much praise," Rockefeller said in his Nov. 19 address. "The bill will drive down costs and improve the quality of health care, stop health insurance companies from denying care to people who need it, protect coverage for children in the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP), safeguard Medicare for seniors with the Independent Medicare Advisory Board, offer a public health insurance option to drive down costs and keep health insurance companies honest and accountable."

Health care reform bill talks are scheduled to begin after Thanksgiving break.

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Who Needs Healthcare?
11/23/09 at 2:14 PM
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I don't need no doctor. Who needs doctors and hospitals? Waste of time and money. I'm healthy as a horse. I can take herbs I grow in my garden. If my appendix busts I'll take it out myself! If I get sick I'll eat chicken noodle soup and garlic. If I bust a leg I'll tie a stick to it and go back to work. You liberals are a bunch of crybabies.
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poor don't deserve healthcare
11/23/09 at 1:15 PM
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If people do not make at least $100,000 a year, they do not deserve to have children in this country, or healthcare. If you can't afford to have kids and pay the hospital bills, etc. you don't deserve to have them! It's just like having a pet. People get pets all the time and don't take them to the vet or feed them properly, and they don't deserve them either! If people are too lazy or stupid to work hard to get a college degree and a good job in this country, then they deserve what they get! This country was designed for the good God-fearing Christians only, who make a good living and want the best for themselves. If people don't see that, that Jesus is on their side, then they are lost.
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Don't forget...
11/23/09 at 12:47 PM
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We should all not have to pay for our roads being cleared in the winter either! (I'm so sick of doing that, especially since I don't drive--why should I have to pay for people who drive?) I'm also sick of having to pay for public schools and buses! I don't have any kids in school, why should I have to pay for the people who do? Let them teach their own kids, pay for their own kids educations, and drive their own kids to school! They're the ones who chose to have the kids in the first place! Why should everyone else have to pay for it?
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it's all ridiculous
11/23/09 at 11:57 AM
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Taxpayers should also not have to pay for police, public roads, public schools, public libraries, emergency services or fire departments either. Everything ought to be paid for by the private sector. If you can pay, you can play. If you need a police officer, you have to be able to afford to call one. If your house catches fire, make sure you have paid up on your fire insurance and have the money ready for the bill from the fire department first. If you get in a car accident make sure you have full coverage, including all hospital and EMS and have the money to pay all possible expenses, especially if you get sued if you are found to be at fault. If you miss work, make sure you have enough money in savings to cover lost wages too. All schools should be private, and Christian, because this is a Christian Nation, and All Children need to be taught straight from the Bible as it is what our Constitution is based on, and our nation was founded upon. Parents also ought to be encouraged to home school their own children so as to not be influenced by sin and the world. Anything else is an abomination.
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Jim
11/23/09 at 9:00 AM
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This bill is ridiculous and anybody that has looked into it would agree. People that can't afford insurance now won't be able to afford this public option either. What about the people that don't want health care? What about the people that refuse to support anything that has to do with abortion?

The Bible says that God will protect those that refuse to give in to sin. If you think about it this is almost the same situation that the early Christians faced against the Romans. I thought that our constitution didn't allow people to be persecuted because of religion. Threatening huge fines and jail time to those refusing to pay for this sinful bill is persecution.
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chariotdrvr14
11/23/09 at 8:48 AM
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Why vote against one's own interest? Why side with wealthy insurance execs who get yearly bonuses of upwards of $1million? Why balk at paying a tax that is only fraction of what one pays monthly for their private insurance? Why throw a tantrum about a bureaucracy that already works for vets and seniors? and not balk at pointless bureaucracies created by previous administrations whose sole purpose is to invade our privacy? But because you can thoughtlessly like some automaton throw in a word like 'socialism' because you heard someone else (with an equal lack of understanding) says it like it has any relevance in this situation. Repeating that one is 'not stupid' doesn't necessarily make it fact.
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Pastor
11/22/09 at 9:44 PM
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Its very sad. However, we now know what we are dealing with. This person commenting below has just shown his true colors buy saying he does not like our president because he is black. God made all men in his image. Obama is not black. He is a mixture of both white and african. Angels weep at the hatred that you are showing. Stop talking about fighting, and lets work together to make this a better place.
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Not Stupid
11/22/09 at 8:00 PM
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Save your breath I'm gone. It is a shame what our country has become by having a person of color as President. Keep on bowing Obama.
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Not Stupid
11/22/09 at 7:43 PM
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What ever but I will not live in a socialist country and will fight a take over until the death. Wake up people Obama is a Socialist.
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John
11/22/09 at 7:11 PM
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Jay Rockefeller makes me proud to be a West Virginian! He can't be bought with Insurance company dollars! The American Medical Association, AARP, The American Cancer Society, and Families first have all endorsed the bill! All the Obama haters would rather see him fail in office, than for millions of American's to keep their family members at their side for another day. Its sad. American's are good people, we do the right thing for others, and for our nation. We work together to make this a better place. Conservatives have drug their feet for a hundred years on every inch of progress. They were against national highways, rural electrification, medicare, social security, public universitites and libraries. The list goes on. Why are they relavent anymore? They had 12 long years of complete control of congress, and did not even think about healthcare reform. Now all the sudden, the democrats are in office, trying to get something done besides voting on flag burning, and they think they have a better plan? The republican plan does not even cover additional people, or do anything about pre-existing conditions. Since the new deal brough us medicare, the republicans have tried to water it down, calling it socialism. All of the sudden, now the Neo Cons are trying to say they are the defenders of medicare? Wow, all I can say is... wow!
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Not Stupid
11/22/09 at 6:46 PM
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I knew that was coming. Don't play that race crap with me. If the Klan was around and knew my whole family the law would find me hanging in a tree so get off that card and that shows me who wants this health care. I worked and paid for insurance and didn't like the cost but I needed it for my family. My weekends are watching TV not out running the clubs because I need to wine down. You either pay for insurance or party. I guess this is over since you can't deal with liberals and they can blame me cause I could care less.
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What??
11/22/09 at 4:19 PM
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"Eight of every 10 uninsured Americans live in wage-earning households," said Grealy. "These are people who work hard to build comfortable lives for their families, but they're living on the edge of disaster. Without health coverage, just one serious illness or injury can take away so much of what they've worked for, And, without preventive care, the odds of a serious illness increase. Washington needs to act swiftly to help pull these working families back from the edge."

Information provided by the Healthcare Leadership Council

Most people I know who have no health insurance WORK hard for a living! "Not stupid" where are you getting your information from?? And what do you have against minorities??
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Not Stupid
11/22/09 at 1:37 PM
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England,Canada, Iran and Mexico. There are more but why waste my time with people that are willing tell sell their freedom for something they didn't work for. Better get in line the Thanksgiving Baskets are going fast. I have to go buy mine.
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Not Stupid
11/22/09 at 1:31 PM
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I see you all are great Obama backers and he can do no wrong. You might be bowing to him but I will die a free man before i bow to anyone. Most of the people without live in tenement housing in Chicago, New York and other big cities with a lot of minorities who aren't working and the great Obama said they will have and the working joe will pay. I know you left wing liberals won't admit it but it is true.
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the facts--do the research
11/22/09 at 12:56 PM
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The US pays twice as much yet lags other wealthy nations in such measures as infant mortality and life expectancy. Currently the U.S. has a higher infant mortality rate than most of the world's industrialized nations. The USA's life expectancy lags 42nd in the world, after most rich nations, lagging last of the G5. The USA's life expectancy is ranked 50th in the world after the European Union (40th). The World Health Organization (WHO), in 2000, ranked the U.S. health care system as the highest in cost, 37th in overall performance, and 72nd by overall level of health (among 191 member nations included in the study). A 2008 report by the Commonwealth Fund ranked the United States last in the quality of health care among the 19 compared countries. According to the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences, the United States is the "only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not ensure that all citizens have coverage" (i.e. some kind of insurance). The same Institute of Medicine report notes that "Lack of health insurance causes roughly 18,000 unnecessary deaths every year in the United States." while a 2009 Harvard study published in the American Journal of Public Health found a much higher figure of more than 44,800 excess deaths annually in the United States due to Americans lacking health insurance. More broadly, the total number of people in the United States, whether insured or uninsured, who die because of lack of medical care was estimated in a 1997 analysis to be nearly 100,000 per year.
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What are you talking about?
11/22/09 at 12:18 PM
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People go to Cuba for their superior doctors and health care from all over SA! I also talk to many people from the UK, Spain and Germany and other EU countries who LOVE their universal health care systems, and think the US seems, well for lack of a better word rather "cruel" and selfish. Canada (our neighbors to the north) also does a fine job with their system as opposed to ours. Which countries come here for better health care? Site examples and proof, please.

2012?? LOL don't tell me you are one of those right wing Mayan calender "apocalypse" people? LOL!
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Not Stupid
11/22/09 at 12:01 PM
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If you would check it out that is why so many from other county's come here for medical treatment. Socialized medical is bad for very sick and old since they are put at the end of the line or just denied care. What you want is that all of the people living in Govt. housing given more of a free ride and the hell with our freedom as long as you get something you didn't earn from your socialist President. God help us since Liberals won't. 2012 is not coming fast enough.
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What's wrong with reforming health care?
11/22/09 at 11:42 AM
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I guess most people in this country prefer financing big insurance companies and the HUGE salaries of their CEOs, as opposed to helping some 45 million + Americans who go without health care insurance or even health care? People work hard for a living, yet in a so-called advanced civilization and wealthy country such as our own, they are denied such a basic human right?

People go bankrupt, loses homes, jobs, because of illness and unforeseen accidents in this country! Unless you are wealthy, have an employer that actually pays benefits for you, or are so unfortunate, disabled and destitute as to be eligible for Medicaid, or a veteran, you are apt to suffer greatly at any time in your life time if you unexpectedly develop cancer or some other debilitating disease, or suffer a car accident that leaves you seriously injured or maimed.

Other developed countries have socialised medicine. The United States is actually lagging behind.
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Not Stupid
11/22/09 at 10:54 AM
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There is another one that needs voted out of office. Wake up West Virginia. We need to clean house or we all will be damned.

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